Bilal

GUYS, I JUST STUMBLED UPON THIS SITE, AND DID A COMPARISON TEST OF THE SL55 Vs. THE FERRARI 575M.

TURNS OUT, WEIGHT DOES NOT MATTER, PROVIDED YOU HAVE AMG POWERING YOUR ***.

IN A STRAIGHT LINE, THE 575M LOSES!!!!!!

IT HAS MORE HP, AND WEIGHS LESS BY ABOUT 200KG!!!


SL55 RULES, SEE FOR YOURSELF.

http://www.track-challenge.com/compa...ar1=48&Car2=56




FERRARI

vraa

ouch! Ferrari just got ripped!

They also had a bigger engine!

pocholin

Link is not working

JustinTRW

It turns out that you don't know what torque is either.

Then we look at the track times, and the SL55 is no where to be found compared the the 575M.

Bilal

Well, I'm sorry to say I do know what torque is, but the fact of the matter remains when you pay out of your nose for a V12, and it just turns out you are buying a FERRARI, you expect it to do a bit more than just go from point A to point B. In fact, you expect it to go a bit faster than the competition. Value for money is my point, and don't you dare throw the Z06 at me.


I cannot praise the SL55 anymore than what anybody has already said about it.

BUT, I remember someone saying "you must be crazy if you think an SL55 is faster than a 575M in a straight line". I just needed to prove my point.

And don't even think about using the "its not fast around a race track" bull****. How many 50+year old 575M owners do you see throwing their car around Hockenheim?




Bottom line: The SL55 is AWESOME.


if you were worried about track times, why didn't you buy an M3? WHy don't you go to track challenge and do a comparison of your C32 vs. an M3???


I'll save you the hassle.

http://www.track-challenge.com/compa...Car1=42&Car2=2

FInality

Its 7 seconds behind on the ring, I wouldn't call the SL55 a slouch.

The Z06 looks terrible, has a fibre glass shell, has a totally crappy interior and is not the ideal spot to be when you crash into something.

While I like the Z06 all of the above factors are disuading it from being my next car.

Bilal

Dude, thank you!

ps, are you the same guy over at the bmwm5 forums who once said you had a vid of the SL55 v 360 modena?

JustinTRW

It is an awsome car, no question. But the other thing you must keep in mind is that people who buy the 575M probably don't care that the SL55 is faster in a straight line. But then again, you were downplaying the 575 as if the SL55 owns it. Perhaps it does if you want a GT luxury convertible. Ferrari as a company has always been great at making their cars quick on the track. The SL55 is simply a different car. Both are considered GT's, but between the two, the 575M is the sports car. By chance have you driven both?

For the record, I did not buy my C32 for the track either, so I do not care. It's by no means a sports car. What idiot would buy a C32 for track times?

A 911 Turbo is quicker than any of the aforementioned. I consider it to have very good value for the money.


So my point: you are comparing apples to oranges. There's also an element of driver involvement in a weekend car. Ferrari's are emotional purchases, not merely statisical ones. So what is your point? The SL55 is faster than the 575M in a straight line. Big deal.

Sorry if I came off as offending, I just don't like the statement, "PROVIDED YOU HAVE AMG POWERING YOUR ***". Then you point out the 575M has less weight and more hp. There's more to it.

BTW Bilal, are you Indian?


[SIDENOTE]What Mercedes has done with these airmatic/ABC equipped suspensions is quite remarkable, given the weight most MB cars carry. Many Mercedes have less body roll than sports cars because of these active systems. Very nice indeed. [/SIDENOTE]

Bilal

I'm Pakistani

So no grudges...

vraa

They are still boats. We talked about this on AIM. Then you left me

No grudges at all, this is an international forum. We're here to talk cars, not history.

Bilal

I have to do this:

"Then you left me "

vraa

After i posted it i was afraid it sounded a tad bit on a "free" side.

dysert

I love both cars. I can give you a good comparison in a couple of weeks as you can see the new tag on my 575M F1. My Sl55 has about 3k miles on it.

vraa

Yall, we just got own3d.

KLIP

Eurosport

need I say lucky garage floor? ;p

White Knight II

I have both cars.* The SL55 is NOT as fast as the Ferrari off the line.

Notice that the SL55 test was done in cold weather and the Ferrari test was done in warm weather. The difference in OAT explains the difference in published results. It does not make the SL faster than the 575.

Bilal, back to school. Read about intercoolers and report to the group why intake temperature matters.

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*Actually, the Ferrari is a 550, not a 575.

Bilal

I was waiting for someone to mention differences in temperature.

but y'all,

SL Shank

SL55 May be faster than the 575M, but so are many cars. However, I would take a 575M over the SL in a heart beat. So would most if they can afford it. I have yet to own a Ferrari, and plans are to get the next modena. It might not be the fastest new hardware coming out in 2005 but it will be a trophy and an incredible driving experience.

The driving experience of a Ferrari outweighs brute acceleration from the SL or new Z06, Vipers, etc...

gup998

daaaamn...


lucky Dysert

vraa

I was wondering if you could help explain this? I'm still new and i don't really understand it.

Bilal

vraa,

"Cool the incoming air - Compressing air raises its temperature. However, you would like to have the coolest air possible in the cylinder because the hotter the air is, the less it will expand when combustion takes place. Therefore, many turbocharged and supercharged cars have an intercooler. An intercooler is a special radiator through which the compressed air passes to cool it off before it enters the cylinder"

If you look carefully, I mean, I didn't want anyone to notice, the test of the SL55 was done on a very cold day, while the 575 was done on a reasonable ordinary day. Side by side, though, on a very cold morning in the UK, I would like to see the performacne figures then...

All in all, I love Mercedes, and reckon the next generation MB products could give Ferrari a real run for their money...

gup998

eh..i remembering almost everything about a car's engine, i forgot about the intercooler...was wondering why you said your precvious post

thanx for the reminder

Wolfman

That's a strange comment...

I for one actually don't care much for the looks of the 575 and money has litttle to do with it.

As usual, it'a matter of taste and in my case, while I love driving fast but growing up in Germany also seeing (and in some cases experiencing) my share of high-speed accidents, a question of safety.

This is also the reason I never mind the SL to be as heavy as it is; with the structural strength you have a chance to walk away from it and not get folded in like an oreo cookie as in other convertibles. Seen that I suggest never to crash a Ferrari Spider at higher speeds
And there is that notion of practicality. A friend's 360 developed a clutch problem at 7500 miles. The car had to be put on a flatbed trailer and shipped off 500 miles to the next Ferrari dealer, taking it out of commission for a month.

That is actually a nice benefit to have a great car that can be serviced just about anywhere in the world...

Wolfman

blueSL

Agree with that, when I crashed my Ferrari, it was in the shop for 6 months, 5 of those waiting for parts before they could start the job. During that time, my car was rusting where the paint had come off, even though the car was inside. Ferrari's are great but a completely different ownership proposition compared to Mercedes.

I'm trying the replace a part on my F355 which is rusting - the black strip running across the back of the car carrying the "F355 Berlinetta" badge. Aside from the obscene cost, the mounting brackets on the replacement are welded in the wrong position, so the screw holes don't line up. There's only one other in the country and the dealer is going to get a ruler out to check it. If that one's bad too, it will be months before there's any more.

Somehow, I don't think this would happen with Mercedes.